Misan and Michael. Interview

This interview has been done a while back, but due to the format of the interview, it was recorded on audio with very poor quality. After some hard work, I managed to convert it into printed form that is as representative of the original interview as is possible. This interview is lighthearted in nature, somewhat informative, 100% fun. In short, it is completely in the spirit of M&M. Enjoy.

Questions we’ve asked M&M:

What did you guys do last summer?
If you could go back in time to the beginning of first year, and give yourself one piece of advice, what would that be?
How often do you guys get asked if you two are a couple? How does that make you feel?
What is your idea of work-life balance?
Do you guys do a lot of things together?
What’s one cool experience you guys had in medical school so far? Something you guys tell your friends?
If you guys were to substitute in for couple in a Movie/TV show, what couple would that be? Why?
What does it take to be “in the loop” with you guys? What is it like to be in your inner circle?
What are your expectations of clerkship?
What do you guys like least about each other? (Question sponsored by Daksh C.)
What kind of doctors do you want to be? Michael, you said you like surgery?
(As Ranbir V. Requested, Special Question): Which one of you is better dressed?
Is there anything else you guys want to share?

What did you guys do last summer?

Misan: (inaudible) Japan (inaudible) Europe (inaudible).

Michael: I travelled to Korea, China, Japan. I also did a Global Health elective in China for a month.
So, I did a month-long elective in Shanghai, and it was in four different surgical specialties. I did it with Alexandria. It was a very fun experience to see how things like work in China – a different country. Yeah, so I found that to be a very rewarding experience.

Interviewer: How did you arrange that?

I did that with the global health office. In fact, Alexandra and I are actually the first go to from Schulich to that site. It was okay – like, I guess there was like a lot of logistic stuff to work through, but once we started doing our rotations, and like working regular hours, it was pretty good. There are a lot of things you can do in Shanghai.

If you could go back in time to the beginning of first year, and give yourself one piece of advice, what would that be?

Michael: I think, like, one of the more important things is that it’s very nice to have our group, our class, and see each other all the time. But it’s really easy to get, I guess, “sucked” into it, see the same people all the time. So if there is one thing I could do differently in first year is try to expand my friends circle outside of class. Not to say that I don’t love everyone in our class – I do hahaha. But, you know, like, I think it would be a very good idea to keep in touch with your old friends, you know, meet other people outside of med school, like you know. Maybe nurses… There are like, dentists… I think it’s a really good idea that we had that interprofessional coffee house –so, like, we get to see the people we will be working in the future, not just physicians. So, I’m looking forward to having more events like that.

Interviewer: There is an interprofessional health club on campus.

Michael: I guess we should advertise a little bit more about that. I never knew that existed.

How often do you guys get asked if you two are a couple? How does that make you feel?

Misan: Like, a lot.

Michael: I think at the beginning of [last] year, everyone thought we were a couple

Misan: And Ranbir said he saw us holding hands

Michael: He probably did

Misan: But later on, when I asked him, he said “[he’s] never said that”.

Misan & Michael: Hahahaha…

Michael: Yeah, think that’s really hilarious, because we went to white coat together, and we didn’t have our families, so we were, like, there, like, with each other, and I guess a lot of people saw us.

Misan: And also, when I was, you know, like, when you walk in and you get your picture taken – and so I decided to pose for a picture with Michael. And the guy just gave the white coat to Michael, and not me, and I was like “can I have one, too?” hahaha.

Misan: yes, but yeah, it was a question that we got a lot last year

Michael: but now that people got to know us,

Misan: but someone asked me this year if I’m with Michael, and I was like “no, you’re behind”.

Michael: was he in our year?

Misan: yes, but he was from Windsor.

What is your idea of work-life balance?

Misan: I think it’s important to not give up doing things that you like doing, because they make you who you are. It’s easy to fill up all the time you have with work. Keep on doing the things that you want to do, you can always find the time to do work.

Misan: Well, I play squash with a group of people. We try to do that once a week. And, well, hang out with people, my boyfriend comes to visit me like once a week… and… I cook food, play piano..

Michael: BAND!

Misan: Band, yeah, band! Yeah…

Michael: I can’t believe you did not remember that.

Misan: it’s because we did not have a practice in a while.

Michael: So, yeah, I agree with her – in Med school it’s really easy to get stuck doing just work, especially with everyone around you doing so much. And you look around you, and you are like: ok. You’re doing research? I want to do research, too, but like… it’s important to do things that you enjoy.

Like, for me, I have to do kinda different things. I can’t, like, study all day. I play the violin, I do dance stuff, hang out with friends, I try to go to the gym fairly frequently… Other than that, like, you know – just do things that you enjoy, you know – you don’t have to, like, change who you are having gone into Medicine. We have all being doing things before, and we should keep on doing those things.

Do you guys do a lot of things together?

Michael: Well, we live together. We do a lot of stuff together actually

Misan: When we hang out with people, we always go together.

Michael: we do, like, music stuff together – choir, band

Interviewer: What’s it like to live with another med student?

Misan: I like it

Michael: yeah, I like it. Like, you can share experiences and stuff, and also schedule is similar.

Misan: I like being able to share jokes, like, geeky, nerdy jokes

Michael: and also it’s really nice to have each other’s back.

What’s one cool experience you guys had in medical school so far? Something you guys tell your friends?

Michael: There are so many things. It’s very different, I guess, from my experience in undergrad. I dunno, I can’t really pin-point like ONE thing that like really stands out. It was a whirlwind of experiences.

Misan: I think for me, the one that stood out the most was Western Voice*, as embarrassing as it was, but [it was] pretty fun. And the school band nights. (*Interviewer note: I misheard this as “Western Boys” at first, and had to ask for clarification)

Michael: for me, I think, maybe Tachy, like going into it I had no idea what it was, but everyone raves about tachy, and people who graduated from Western years ago would be like “Oh yeah, Tachy was such a fun event”. I didn’t know what it was, but I figured I would go anyway, and I didn’t really realize how fun it really was until I went on to see everyone’s how, including ours on DVD).

Interviewer: Remind me again, did you participate in the performance?

Michael: yes, I was one of the ghosts.

Misan: yeah, Tachy was really fun

Michael: I’m looking forward to Tachy this year.

Interviewer: What is Western Voice?

Misan: Western Voice? It’s hosted by CSA, which is Chinese Student Association.. a lot of people who participate are not Chinese. Well, maybe one guy. And Byron. Anyway, it’s hosted by them, and it’s kinda like The Voice – the TV show? So, you go there, you audition, and they choose the top 8 or so? And then they make music videos to promote us, and then there is a final show. I think there were like 400 people? It was a lot of fun.

If you guys were to substitute in for couple in a Movie/TV show, what couple would that be? Why?

Misan: We should be, like, the evil team in Pokémon. Team Rocket.

Michael: What? No…

Misan: Yeah!

Michael: They’re not a couple. Are they a couple?

Misan: probably not a couple…

Michael: No, but if we play a couple… what do you mean like a couple?

Interviewer: Like, what kind of a dynamic you guys have similar to a couple on screen? Who is the boss? Do you guys kinda share the responsibility of bossing each other… or you kinda do your own thing separately?

Michael: I dunno… we do a lot of things together, but like, I dunno…

Interviewer: Well, does one of you have a secret life the other person doesn’t know about?

Misan: hahaha

Michael: haha… oh, my god..

Misan: Umm, yeah… I can’t think of one..

Michael: That’s a boring answer.

Misan: Well, come up with a better one. You can’t just criticize.

What does it take to be “in the loop” with you guys? What is it like to be in your inner circle?

Michael: I feel like it just happens naturally. You know? The people we met in band, people we kinda started talking to… We aren’t like exclusive or anything. I think it just, kinda happens. Organically.

Misan: chance…

Michael: It’s just like, serendipity I guess.

Misan: also, like, this year we are pretty lazy in initiating contact with other people. If they take initiative, and they are like “hey, do you want to do this”, then yeah…

Michael: yeah, we are very open to that. We love having people invite us to stuff.

Interviewer: So if people want to hang out with you guys, they should take the initiative.

Misan & Michael: Yes. Hahaha. Especially this year.

What are your expectations of clerkship?

Michael: We actually have quite different interests. I am more interested in doing, like, a surgical specialty, and, I’m, like, doing several different observerships right now exploring different options. And I don’t think Misan is interested in surgery.

Misan: yeah, no… haha

Interviewer: Are you guys planning to keep on living together next year?

Misan: well, I’m actually thinking about moving out. Get my own place.

What do you guys like least about each other? (Question sponsored by Daksh C.)

Michael: yeah, thanks Daksh.

Interviewer: you can start by first saying what you like most about Misan. The way she looks? The way she treats you?
Michael: I think she is a very sweet person. Like, if you have problems and stuff she is always open to giving advice, and providing support… I think this is what I like most about her..

Interviewer: but…

Michael: but… I honestly can’t really think of anything.

Interviewer: there is nothing that has ever frustrated you about Misan.

Michael: Not really. I can’t really think of anything.

Misan: this is why I let him go first hahaha…

Michael: so she could copy my answer. She was going to trash me hahaha…

Interviewer: So, what do you like most about Mike?

Misan: well, Michael is a really, really there for you.

Michael: I knew she was going to copy me!

Misan: no, this is actually what I wanted to say. He, um, I dunno – he is the kind of person that, if you fall behind, he will take your hand and drag you along…. he is really caring, which I really appreciate. And, he’s got some neat skills, like, making fancy coffee… making some really nice food. Yeah…

The things that I like least about him, like… this year, it’s not as bad, but last year, he drove me crazy, like… we would walk together to school every morning, and he would always be late. And, just, if I KNEW that he would be 30 minutes late, I would just go by myself, right? But he is always like “I’m done! I’m coming” and it’s only like a 5-10 minute walk, but we would always walk in like 5 minutes late to class. And it drove me crazy. But this year, I kinda just got used to it. I dunno if it “rubbed off” or like whatever. And also, we don’t walk to school together anymore. Last year I was, like, so excited for school –

Michael: but you gave up this year

Misan: yeah, this year I gave up

What kind of doctors do you want to be? Michael, you said you like surgery?

Michael: yeah, I’ve always been, you know, more of a hands-on person. I like to learn different things, have different skills, so yeah. That’s something that I’m thinking
Interviewer: do you know what kind of surgery?

Michael: not yet. I dunno, Right now I’m thinking Gen-Surg. I haven’t had a chance to look at all of them yet, so…

Misan: I know I definitely want to do medicine, but right now I’m thinking Emerge, or, if I do internal [medicine], maybe nephrology or gastroenterology.

Interviewer: What do you like about Emerge? What pulls you to it?

Misan: I kinda like that it’s shiftwork. So, you can have different times of the day if you want – like, you can have a full day free. And once you are not on shift, then you are not on call. And I feel that you will see various diverse cases.

Interviewer: And nephro- and gastroenterology?

Misan: I just liked those blocks. And before I came to med school I was volunteering in a dialysis unit. I really liked my experience there. I really want to work in that environment. The only thing that is pulling me back is that it’s probably hard to get a job there.

(As Ranbir V. Requested, Special Question): Which one of you is better dressed?

Misan: Definitely Michael. Hahaha…

Michael: (silent. Just accepting it).

Misan: he usually drives my fashion in a better direction.

Interviewer, asking Michael: Are you a big fan of fashion?

Michael: I dunno, like, I don’t spend a lot of time with it, It’s kinda… I dunno, it’s hard to..

Interviewer: a genetic kinda thing? (Misan laughs)

Michael: no, it’s hard to say, you know – I used to kinda read about fashion and stuff, I don’t do that anymore. I kinda want to do my own thing. I got to a point that I realized that fashion is really what makes you feel happy. Makes you feel confident. It’s not about what other people think, it’s more about yourself. Think about how you feel, and that influences what you wear. If that makes you happy, I think that’s the most important part about fashion.

Misan: I sometimes ask Michael for his feedback, and usually he gives it. Feedback, and advice. But mostly feedback.

Is there anything else you guys want to share?

Michael: I think the story of how we met is kinda interesting. So, we both went to UofT for undergrad, but we didn’t meet each other, like, at UofT. I’m one year ahead of her, and I did a year of research before coming here. We both did a summer research project abroad, and that’s when we met. And we became friends. And then we wrote our MCATs together, applied together… yeah.

Interviewer: Thank you guys for the interview!